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 06-06-2003, 10:06 Post: 56791
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BBLG's? Why yes I do have some. Marlins: 357 Magnum, 35 Remington, 356 Winchester, 375 Winchester, Several 444's in different rifling styles, a 44 Magnum and a 45-70. And maybe one or two that I forgot.

Do Ruger #1's count? It has a lever you know. That is a "do it all" gun in 416 Rigby. Another pretty cool big bore but not a lever gun: A Remington 7600 pump in 35 Whelen.






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 06-07-2003, 12:24 Post: 57038
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The 375 Winchester is a fine and under-appreciated cartridge.

If it loaded to anywhere near its potential it will launch a 220 grain bullet as fast or faster than a 30-06

This is serious short to mid-range power. It is SAAMI rated at 50,000 CUP. One of the reasons it can go there is the specially drawn brass.

The 375 Win., like its granddaddy the 38-55, uses a straight walled 30-30 case. Actually I guess the 30-30 is a necked down 38-55 case.

Anyway, the 375 brass is much, much stronger than run of the mill 30-30 brass and has some interesting potential for "plus P" loads in 30-30 Ackley Improved chamberings and similar loadings in the 7-30 Waters.

I have done some limited experimentation in this area with my Ackley Improved cartridges and I discovered rather quickly that the brass is so much thicker that once it is necked down it needs its neck thinned to operate safely in standard 30-30 chambers. I suspect that would be true of 7-30 chambers too.

Anyway, my Marlin 375 was used when I bought it. I have run some practice rounds through it. Someday when life gets easier, I hope to hunt with it.

Two bullets of note for lever guns and handloaders are a 220 grain flat point which is, I think, made by Hornady especially for this caliber, and a 255 soft point made by Barnes. Either one should slap the dog turds out of a moderate to large sized bear at closer ranges and be more than adequate or deer, antelope and critters of that ilk, or in this case, elk.

For Contenders in this chambering there are published loads using 235 grain bullets designed for the 375 H&H.






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 06-25-2003, 09:54 Post: 58264
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I am thinking the 454 might be a lot pressure in a rear locking action.

It essentially runs in the same power class as a 45-70 but some of those factory loads are 60,000 psi or more, where the 45-70 runs at half that by virtue of it bigger boiler room.

You gain a little weight savings in the rifle, at least in the Taurus, due to the shorter action, but lighter weight is not necessarily a good thing when you combine those muzzle energy figures with a 6 pound carbine.

The 480 Ruger is also sort of re-inventing the 1873 'wheel'. It offers 1.5 caliber more than a 45-70 which isn't really significant, but its chamber pressures are probably more suited to a lever action.

I guess the attraction, other than the 'cool' factor, will be the traditional American virtue on "two guns, one cartridge". The only fly in that ointment is the frame size of the handguns for the 480 are a bit on the big side for daily packing. A 5 shot Super Blackhawk with a 5 1/2 inch barrel would change all that.








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 06-28-2003, 08:33 Post: 58474
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We need to get those people sidetracked somewhere. At least the animals we eat are already dead. We take living, breathing vegetables and eat them alive.

You can't imagine the terror a carrot or a kumquat feels when they see those teeth coming at them, or the pain of having their living flesh dismembered while their life's blood (you know, fruit juice) gushes forth.

It is too horrible to contemplate.

I think I'll have breakfast. I hope we are not out of encapsulated embryonic chickens (eggs) and pre-masticated, seasoned, porcine flesh (Jimmy Dean sausage) (MMMMM).






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